Does God Exist?

[waka11]

maybe the big bang relly happend .. iam not saying that didnt happen .. but surley a bigger power controlled it ... well if you say the big bang started from simple materials.. then those simple materials have been created by god .. and if those simple materials was made from simplest materials then god has created .. we will keep saying that untilll u will reach point of '' nothing '' and surely those materials didnt come from nothing

maybe yes .. scientific processes control the universe but those are just ways for god to control it .

[Antichrist]

"If there is a God, He is infinitely incomprehensible, since, having neither parts nor limits, He has no affinity to us. We are then incapable of knowing either what He is or if He is....
..."God is, or He is not." But to which side shall we incline? Reason can decide nothing here. There is an infinite chaos which separated us. A game is being played at the extremity of this infinite distance where heads or tails will turn up. What will you wager? According to reason, you can do neither the one thing nor the other; according to reason, you can defend neither of the propositions."

- Quoted from Pascal, the french philosopher.

[Antichrist]

Therefore we can't prove God exists. There is no proof that belief immediately leads to rewards. Otherwise, it would be disadvantageous to not believe in a God, and we all know the case of Warren Buffett, an atheist who is worth more billions of dollars than I can bother to count.

[Antichrist]

That said, I don't doubt that belief in God provides many people with belonging and fulfillment in their lives. However, this is much more a result of having a strong connection to people with the same beliefs, rather than due to a supernatural force providing advantages for one's faith, such as promises of a particular afterlife or greater prosperity.

[waka11]

umm you have to understand that english isnt my native language.... i understood a part of the qoute but not all of it .. do you mind explaining it to me ..

[Antichrist]

Basically the quote says that there is no reason for God to exist because even if God existed, he would be completely incomprehensible, and therefore it would be impossible for humans to determine his existence due to there being no reason for his existence.

If we tried to prove God's existence or lack thereof through probability, we would reach results that are completely unsubstantiated by fact, since the lack of evidence that holds firm would destroy any possible reasons for God's existence.

We can't even know if God exists if we haven't confirmed what 'God' actually is. I don't believe he is real, except as a figure in texts and as a reference to supposed 'supernatural forces' that in my belief does not exist in real life.

[Antichrist]

I have to go now, see you later

[Q Smith]

Let's bring this very fascinating discussion back to life!

There is no God. Simple and to the point.

[Antichrist]

Good on you Q Smith - that's 2 vs. 2, a much fairer matchup.

Kind of hard to hit me on the head when you're not even logged on

[Antichrist]

So are the non-atheists/agnostics giving up?